Yup. I guess the best way to learn is to just do it. If it works, well done. If it doesn't, nevermind. You'll be able to make something better next time.
Or something...
i dont know the slightest thing about film, but why do you want 16mm? You detirmined to shoot on film thats fine... but why does it have to 16mm? The fact you are considering to shoot some with DV would suggest to me money is a factor here and you dont have never ending supplies...
why not shoot on 8mm? you will learn just as much as shooting on 16, it will look nice if you light it properly and it will cost alot less...
aw..skinhead guy, i like you again now. [img]graemlins/rose.gif[/img] can we be friends??
the reason i wanna shoot on 16mm is i wanna sell my baby (ok, i know, i should probably just keep practicing and learning and grinding myself into the ground while i wait and become an expert before i go for it but i'm feeling too ansty to wait anymore. and i know i must be sounding really silly like i haven't thought things though and that doing this for fun and for money is completely different but i have a vague idea of what i'm doing and i have complete faith in my script as something marketable) and i can't afford 35mm and i don't like how digital looks. AND from some of the stuff i've been reading it sounds like 16mm is the smallest format you can then have blown up to 35mm(when i get picked up by a big distributor...because it WILL happen) is that true? 8mm is too small?? correst me if i'm wrong, i'd love to be wrong...
anyway, here's the thing, if it all fails and no festival wants me (will is alost impossibe given how many festivals there are in the world) or if no distributor sees the potential in my 'masterpiece' then i have some theories about the future of film distribution and i will have to take matters into my own hands. ok, look i'm gonna stop ranting now, it's bad for me and i don't want a lynching for being a unrealistic or up myself. i just have a dream which i think i share with most of you guys and the fear that i will never have it unless i get on with it is killing me...i don't want to be fat and middle aged and still be making shorts with my buddies and a DV camera and telling that i'm gonna be a film director. THEN you can laugh at me. but not yet...
Queen F. If you haven't already- please read this book- 'The Guerilla Film-makers Handbook' by C. Jones and G. Joliffe. Perfect for people determined to shoot onto film who haven't before(mind you- they say DO NOT USE 16mm- you should use Super-16mm!) [img]graemlins/film.gif[/img]
And good luck with it- if the script is good then you're already half-way there.
Hey there.
"Or do you have issues with the GFMH?"
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Despin out.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've blown up a super-8mm film to 16mm, and the guy at the lab in Burbank California who projected my 16 answer print (which came from the S-8 to 16mm blow-up negative) said, "Wow, that looks good". However, my film had no people in it. (it was time-lapse and time-exposure imagery).Originally posted by Queen Frostine:
i have complete faith in my script as something marketable) and i can't afford 35mm and i don't like how digital looks. AND from some of the stuff i've been reading it sounds like 16mm is the smallest format you can then have blown up to 35mm(when i get picked up by a big distributor...because it WILL happen) is that true? 8mm is too small?? correst me if i'm wrong, i'd love to be wrong...
I definitely wouldn't shoot super-8mm if your goal from the get go is to make a film you plan on selling. Your learning curve is far too great on your first film project or two, and super-8 needs to be shot by someone intimately aware of it's possibilities and limitations.
However, you SHOULD shoot a couple of very simple projects in super-8, as your learning curve about film will greatly increase in that very short while.
For many many years the first film production class at USC film school in Los Angeles required that film school students shoot FIVE super-8 films before they even touched a 16mm or 35mm camera. I don't know if they still have this class or not, but the super-8 class was definitely a pre-requisite during the 70's, 80's, and 90's.
Low budget projects to consider for learning about film via super-8 include making a music video or a commercial. Once you have done that, try a short dialogue project. You'll need a quiet running super-8 camera for that.
Don't rush into a project because you are worried where you will be 1,5,10, or 20 years from now, just improve with each project you do.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 10, 2003 01:57 AM: Message edited by: Alex ]</font>
Hey there,
"Despin out"
LOL... every time!
Ok- hows about- you don't rate the 'Guerilla Film-makers' Handbook'
DO NOT BUY THAT BOOK !!!!!!!
Save your money or invest in these two books
Directing Shot By Shot Steve Katz
Producing and Directing the Short film and Video by David Irving
DO NOT BUY GURILLAS HAND MAKERS BOOK !!!!!!!!!!
Also, are you intending to shoot the film yourselve ? might be worth getting in touch with a DOP and they can help you out with the film side
"Directing Shot By Shot Steve Katz"
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">"Producing and Directing the Short film and Video by David Irving"Originally posted by Queen Frostine:
i've been making shorts since i was ten years old. i think i know what i'm doing...i just wanted some advice.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I got the impression that Queen F. wanted a book that was informative on costs and details of film. I've got both the books you describe and they're good, but not really relative on what she was looking for whilst that's what the GFMH goes into great depth into. Or do you have issues with the GFMH?Originally posted by Queen Frostine:i don't want to be fat and middle aged and still be making shorts with my buddies and a DV camera and telling that i'm gonna be a film director
Apparently Super-8 blown up to 35mm looks like you're trapped in the middle of the decade's largest hailstorm...
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